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No, it's not as simple as that. People use brick to mean slightly different things - sometimes they say hard/soft bricked instead of bricked. And you'll even find some people who say what you say but admit that it was still the correct word to describe devices which can only be fixed by disassembling the hardware and using jtag, which "brick extremists" probably wouldn't allow.


This was a boot loop condition. The person reporting it clearly knows this and yet confused the issue by saying "bricked." Bricked is non-recoverable.


Can you provide your definition of non-recoverable? An extreme example: someone could tear down the phone down to every single last nanometer-scale transistor and polymer, fix the problem and reassemble it; that would make it recoverable from even most scenarios of destruction, hell, with enough energy available one could in theory fuse/fusion it down into iron and reconstruct the very elements themselves in order to eventually produce a working phone again.

There are some implicit limits to what "bricked" means and those limits vary by individual.


I'm curious, what component could you replace in this instance to recover the iPhone and not lose data?

One could argue that every single component on a device could be replaced to bring it back from the dead, but I would argue it isn't the same device at that point.

Bricked is a term that is, and always has been, defined as hardware that is rendered useless by bad software. Replacing hardware components to get a device working is not un-bricking it.


"One could argue that every single component on a device could be replaced to bring it back from the dead, but I would argue it isn't the same device at that point."

This is entering the realms of philosophy. If you get your screen replaced is it any longer your phone? If someone replaced every part of your phone one piece at a time, at teh pace of one piece a week did they suddenly steal it the moment the last piece was switched out? After all, they have "your" phone - if the concept of "your" phone ever made any sense in the first place.

Rendering useless by bad software - so if you take my linux device and install windows I now have something with objectively worse software than before, and where all my software no longer runs, and which is incapable of reading my ext4 formatting external hard drive. So...you've bricked it?


> Rendering useless by bad software - so if you take my linux device and install windows I now have something with objectively worse software than before, and where all my software no longer runs, and which is incapable of reading my ext4 formatting external hard drive. So...you've bricked it?

Obviously not because you can always put Linux back on it. A bricked device, you have no way of doing this. It's useless.

I can't believe all of this discussion simply because people want reuse a word that already means something. It's like the FE devs hijacking "real time". Good grief already.




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