On: Red Hat Expecting X.org to “Go into Hard Maintenance Mode Fairly Quickly”

[rbanffy]

       Working on updates
          30% complete
  Don't turn off your computer

[garaetjjte → rbanffy]

    Failure configuring Windows updates
            Reverting changes

And it does that (update and revert cycle) every boot..

[pjmlp → rbanffy]

I just saw our Macs on the office do the same thing.

[Karunamon → pjmlp]

They probably weren't kicked out of what they were doing or lost work as a result. MacOS is comparatively much better-behaved when it comes to update behavior.

[pjmlp → Karunamon]

Actually they were, remote update push from IT.

[rbanffy → pjmlp]

When an admin, local or remote, tells a computer to restart, it should restart. That's the computer working as intended.

What we are talking about is a program that updates the system kicking users out and spending a very long time doing things the user finds opaque.

[bad_user → pjmlp]

Does it do that automatically, closing apps doing stuff?

(I have a Mac, it never did)

One trick sysadmins did on Windows was to keep Notepad with an unsaved file running, because it was able to interrupt the forced system restart.

[pjmlp → bad_user]

I am mostly on Windows, but in both cases those updates get actually forced on all machines by IT remote management tooling.

[bad_user → pjmlp]

We don't have "IT remote management tooling". I would be surprised if it happened for Macs, since it's one of those things that can lead to work being lost and it's incredibly stupid.

Also the situation I described happens for personal computers outside of remote corporate control.

When Windows updates, you get a dialog saying that the computer will restart soon and if you're not there to stop it from doing that, it will force close all apps.

One side effect is that you can't leave it alone to process something and heavens forbid leaving it on as a personal server for you to connect remotely to it because it will shut down.

And to make matters worse, Microsoft is pushing those updates frequently and depending on whether you got the shitty version or the expensive version, you can't disable this behavior.

[pjmlp → bad_user]

We surely have it on any enterprise I have worked for with Macs around.

And they even have anti-virus running due to compliance with security regulations.

[rbanffy → pjmlp]

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  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree       
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  All packages are up to date.

[pjmlp → rbanffy]

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