On: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

[munificent]

I agree, but he also brought us the 2016 MBP which is possibly the best programmer's laptop ever made.

[CountSessine → munificent]

The 2016 4th generation MacBook Pro with its execrable butterfly keyboard is what I’m talking about. Thinness for thinness-sake - forget about typing efficiency, typing correctness, or repetitive stress injuries. Damnable thinness at any cost.

[wlesieutre → CountSessine]

I think that was a joke about the differing opinions on the 2016 MPB. It’s either the best or the worst programmer’s laptop depending on who you ask and how much they like deep key travel.

[UIZealot → munificent]

You mean the 2015 MBP? That's widely regarded as the last good MBP.

[munificent → UIZealot]

I'm thinking the third-generation MBP. The last one before the TouchBar. But, honestly, I loved every generation of Appl laptops except for the most recent.