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"capitalism is irredeemable" or "green deal" are positions that even in germany would be considered very left or far-left, not centrist. Where in the world would they be considered centrist?


It is fine. This is part of the problem. The moment you talk about right, you label them as racists, abortion banning a-holes. While AOC's views, who even Democrats label a Socialist (with policies such as green deal, 70% tax rates on high income earners, free college etc.), is now centrist! I hope you realize how different our views are - in that we aren't even on the same page to start the conversation.

But of course, we should ban the right since they are racists and misogynists. And then we act surprised when Trump wins again.


So it would be fascist to argue with someone that climate change is going to end the world in twelve years? I don't agree but if you apply the same logic to AOC then she's a fascist in your opinion.


>climate change is going to end the world in twelve years

That a position that is supported by nearly all peer-reviewed evidence is not considered centrist, is another sign we've shifted the window towards an ideological rather than rational/observational politics.


I would disagree. Most people believe in man-made climate change. It is a centrist belief. The ability to turn that topic into a fearful subject where you can rake in tax dollars is where it becomes an issue and a platform for the left. I work building software for climate research and lean to the right.


That position is not supported by nearly all peer-reviewed evidence (for any reasonable value of "end the world").




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