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So it looks like the 3700X should be reasonably expected to be on a par with or better than the i9-9900K?

And that's very much in the middle of the zen 2 offerings... and at a significantly lower price.



Yes. The only question left is single thread perf. Over a range of applications. That's what everyone is waiting to see. Part of that will include how well it handles fast memory. Currently intel is in a different league when it comes to that.


> The only question left is single thread perf

I thought this benchmark was about single thread perf? From the article -

"However, according to a Cinebench score shared by Videocardz on Twitter, the 3600 levels with the Core i7-9700K in the single threaded test."

Whilst this is only one benchmark, it's looking like they've caught up or even overtaken on single thread performance too.


The IPC is almost identical. The biggest difference will be the maximum clockspeed. Overclocked Intel CPUs can easily reach 5GHz but AMD CPUs usually are between 4.4 to 4.7.Ghz which still is a 10% difference.


Overclocked CPUs are not exactly a mass-market thing are they? I mean, outside of a few niches, does anyone bother?


9900K has 5GHz turbo boost out of box, you just need to have enough cooling. I would say that best CPUs are not a mass market anyway and if you're talking about mass market, you should think about performance per buck and AMD beats Intel there since Zen introduction.


> 9900K has 5GHz turbo boost out of box, you just need to have enough cooling.

Anecdata here, but...

Depending on your type of workload, you don't need anything more than your typical heat sink and fan. Using Prime95 as a torture test, my 9900K will clock to 5 Ghz just fine on just air cooling without thermal throttling unless I'm doing the small FFT test, which creates a workload that fits entirely within CPU cache. I'm not sure if I'd consider that much of a real-world benchmark though.


For example on iMac you won't have 5 GHz. Video: https://youtu.be/f_TTGYC4tmo it runs around 3.9 GHz for prolonged test, while keeping (IMO) dangerous temperature of 93C.


Ridiculous that the person who posted that video is insisting that it's not undergoing thermal throttling. Apple is deliberately underclocking it to reduce the heat it generates.




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