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You live in Seattle, don't you? The reason I ask is because I feel more or less the same way.

I wake up at 6 am so that I can volunteer as a teaching assistant for public school CS classes.

I work with a dog rescue, spending weekends cleaning poop out of kennels and walking dogs.

And yet, native Seattleites will still accuse me of ruining "their" city. I doubt that most of these people make a fraction of the amount of effort that I do to contribute to the community. They just sit on their asses and complain on social media.






> And yet, native Seattleites will still accuse me of ruining "their" city.

If you listen to them, their complaints are likely not that "there's too much dog poop" and "kids these days just don't know enough cs" but rather "money is making the city unlivable for those not connected to tech".

> I doubt that most of these people make a fraction of the amount of effort that I do to contribute to the community. They just sit on their asses and complain on social media.

You're literally doing the same thing you're accusing them of. Besides, effort is a really poor metric for measuring the effect you have on the world.


> If you listen to them, their complaints are likely not that "there's too much dog poop" and "kids these days just don't know enough cs" but rather "money is making the city unlivable for those not connected to tech".

These same people rail against the inequality and exclusivity of the tech industry, and the borders which are drawn around socioeconomic, racial, and gender lines. I am making a significant personal sacrifice to mitigate this issue for future generations by providing the exact CS mentorship and guidance that these people are (rightfully) complaining that they lack. I have directly seen the effects of my efforts on these kids, including a few who have gone on to gasp study CS! In a few short years, they may even be my co-workers, and have completely broken out of the cycle of poverty.

Knowing the positive impact I have had on other peoples lives, and my community at large is a beautiful thing, and I am certain that it outweighs however much my presence is "driving up housing prices" (I live on the east side anyway, so it's a moot point regardless).

Your reflexive dismissal of this not-insignificant contribution and refusal to acknowledge the point being made here is unfortunate. But way to try to reduce this to "there's too much dog poop". You've provided HN readers with a prime example of manipulative framing and intellectual dishonesty.


> I am making a significant personal sacrifice to mitigate this issue for future generations by providing the exact CS mentorship and guidance that these people are (rightfully) complaining that they lack.

I'm sure the people being displaced by tech workers are warmed by this thought. If I am being reductive and manipulative, it is at least as reductive and manipulative to compare the problem of diversity in tech to the problem of capital rapidly gentrifying and displacing people.

I am grateful you provide to the community, but this attitude of "I doubt that most of these people make a fraction of the amount of effort that I do to contribute to the community." is incredibly toxic and narcissistic.


>And yet, native Seattleites will still accuse me of ruining "their" city.

When?

Do they come up to you and point fingers and blame you?

Are they your friends or just strangers?

Why do you care what they think at all?




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