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> not bc they were better

What else do you expect? They are international students, undergoing the same undergraduate or graduate education as US citizens. There's no reason to expect them, as a whole, to perform differently than other US citizen new grads. I've seen very smart and diligent F1 students, as well as some clearly just coasting along without motivation. Just like for US citizen students.

> but bc they were cheaper

This depends on where you are but in my experience most Silicon Valley companies do not discriminate in terms of compensation based on nationality for new grads.




A default assumption is that if you're selecting from A, a superset of B, max(A)>=max(B).


Sure, if A ⊇ B, max(A) >= max(B), but that does not imply that max(A\B) >= max(B).


> A ⊇ B, max(A) >= max(B)

I think this is backwards - if A is a subset of B, max(A) <= max(B).


The special character might have not gone through well - I meant to say when A is a superset of B ("IU" rotated left 90 degrees).


And I think I'm getting the superset/subset characters backwards. Sorry!


> What else do you expect? They are international students, undergoing the same undergraduate or graduate education as US citizens. There's no reason to expect them, as a whole, to perform differently than other US citizen new grads.

The quality of a uni graduate is less about the quality of the uni's teaching and more about the quality of said graduates when they get in, as well as how hard they work while at uni. I would assume, that the average international student who gets into a top university is already better than the average national, due to the higher selection pressure on the former. Also, international students, which in the case of the US, tend to come from a less rich country, are more likely to work hard at uni. They are less satisfied with their financial situation and hence have more to gain.

Having said all that, a lot of lobbying in favour of immigration has the unstated goal of wage depression. It is also not fair to accuse those who are against more immigration of xenophobia or worse. Every political decision has winners and losers and it's easy to be pro-immigration when you profit rather than suffer from it.

-- an immigrant




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