My experience with this conversation is that there is nothing I could say that would make you ever acknowledge my experience or feelings. Even the act of stating my opinion on a subjective matter is getting downvoted, because folks are so eager to NOT talk about this except under the lens of Hickey making shirt jokes.
And it drives home the actual point I wanted to make about how some languages are in theory forkable, but in practice are very much run by a central figure who exercises powerful social control via the inertia of prior involvement and the social power of the community eager to defend them.
