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Roughly opposite percentages for me. I eat about 80% animal (protein + fat). My plants come from liver and onions, and eat lentils (for molybdenum) and some tomatoes once a week. If I want a crunchy cracker for paté, I'll eat some was wasa flaxseed flatbreads.

I don't hold much stock in the Blue Zones. There are regional/genetic and lifestyle differences in different parts of the world, particularly in isolated places. On the other hand, if you look at Hong Kong, it has the highest per-capita meat consumption in the world and the highest longetivity. I'm not implying that meat is the reason for their longetivity-- just point out that longevity is more complicated than the food in your diet.

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Your Blue Zones comment doesn’t account for Loma Linda, California. Not isolated, generic American suburbia. Low smoking, low drinking, high vegetarian.

https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/loma-linda-california/


> My plants from from liver

Oh. I didn’t know liver was a plant now?

You have a very odd diet. It may work for you. You may feel decent. But it’s not backed by the scientific at all. The American Heart Association, among others, have embraced a vegetarian/vegan (ideally full vegan) diet approach for optimal health.

What are your numbers? Blood pressure, cholesterol, BMI, etc?


Cute. "liver and onions."

I'm very fit and in excellent health. 50 year old male, a performance athlete, 6'4" 230 lbs, 14% body fat (i.e., lean and muscular). BP is 120/65, lipid panel is:

Total: 235 HDLC: 69 LDL: 154 TRIG: 58

I got a Coronary Calcium Scan (CAC) this year and my score was zero, i.e., no arterial calcification. This is a far superior indicator of heart/cv health than a lipid panel.

Nutrition is a backwater of poor science, mostly backed by epidemiological survey studies rather than randomized control trials. Eating meat is a proxy or associative marker for people with poor lifestyle habits eating a (terrible) standard american diet. The health orgs are usually political animals, esp the AHA who still believes that dietary cholesterol is a cause of heart disease, that polyunsaturated oils are good for heart health, etc. They look at nutrition as follows: "Let's see, you consume sugar soft drinks and beer, you eat hot dogs, bacon-cheeseburgers, pizza, cheesesteaks, french fries, wings, donuts, waffles and pancakes, eggs and sausage, candy bars and ice cream. You don't exercise, don't sleep well, you're obese, pre-diabetic and show signs of cardiovascular disease. THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOU NEED TO CUT ALL THAT UNHEALTHY MEAT OUT OF YOUR DIET!!"

Research gaps in evaluating the relationship of meat and health https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03091...


Good info. You should write more here; lately HN is gaining an anti-meat bias, but it seems that is starting to change.


The whole world is developing an anti-meat bias, and it's going to come at the cost of our collective health. About 60% of Western diet is plant-based already, in the form of sugar, flour, seed-oils and processed foods. Continuing to push plant-based food means that the obesity/T2 diabetes epidmic is going to explode even further over the next 15-20 years. If the meat industry hadn't f*ed up so royally with factory farming and mad cow disease, I wonder if meat would be less demonized today.




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