On: Linux distros without systemd

[JohnFen]

> The people who prefer initv are the people who enjoy digging in other people’s (untestable) Bash scripts

This is demonstrably untrue. I strongly prefer SysV (which is not to say I think SysV is wonderful or anything) over systemD for a number of architectural and functional reasons.

But I do not enjoy digging into other people's init scripts. Fortunately, I rarely have to do that. I think the last time I had a problem with someone's init script was over 7 years ago.

[dmitryminkovsky → JohnFen]

You're right. Bad generalization. Sentence removed, but archived in your comment.

Out of curiosity, what distros do you use that you've had such a good run with init scripts?

[JohnFen → dmitryminkovsky]

I currently use Debian on everything except my R-PIs, where I use Raspbian.

[duskwuff → JohnFen]

New installs of Debian use systemd by default. Systems which were upgraded from older releases may be grandfathered in to SysV init.

[dsr_ → duskwuff]

Systems which are freshly installed and want to change to sysvinit can do "sudo apt install sysvinit-core".

Or they can try out runit, openrc or nosh, if they feel adventurous. The last one is not yet in Debian proper.

[JohnFen → duskwuff]

Yes, I'm very, very aware of this.