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After seeing some autonomous cars in action, I believe they are 20 years away. In that sense I mean a fully automated driverless car that you can command to do what you want.

It would be great if you could buy a car, have it bring you to work while you read or slept, then after dropping you off, go earn money while it was ubering people around until it was time to pick you up. But I highly doubt this will happen in less than 20 years at this point. There's just too much lacking. It needs real artificial intelligence, not just machine learning and pattern matching. The car needs to know "that's a paper bag flying in the wind I'm about to hit", or "that truck in front of me is stopped."



Considering that we have made ~0 progress toward true AGI, I'm skeptical that level 5 autonomous driving will arrive even within 20 years.


We certainly don't have true AGI but there has been progress in that general direction eg Deepmind's AlphaZero, StarCraft and this thing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17313937


No those aren't progress toward AGI at all. They are tremendously impressive technical achievements, but from an AGI perspective they're basically just parlor tricks.

The reality is that for AGI we don't even know which direction to go yet so it's literally impossible to determine whether we're making forward progress toward the goal. Show me a computer as smart as mouse and then I'll believe we're making progress toward AGI.


> "that truck in front of me is stopped."

Easy if you're not Tesla and have lidar.




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