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> If someone consents to have sex only on the condition of protection from disease and pregnancy

I had sex with a girl who lied about being on birth control. Was I raped?




I would say so: you only provided consent under certain conditions, but these ended up being violated.


A minor difference: if you want to manage your own risk, you should assume could be lying about taking a birth control pill, whereas you can easily verify someone is wearing a condom.

If I was uncertain whether someone was truly on the birth control pill, I would insist upon condoms if I wanted to fully hedge my risk.

I do see the point you're trying make, but it's a complex issue. I could easily make an argument for the opposite case, that it is rape. But I think being able to verify a condom is being worn makes the situation different enough to treat differently from lying about being on the pill.


In some places, the law would call that "rape by deception".


I would say it's not rape but it's definitely a con and should be illegal.

The difference between being tricked into impregnating and being tricked into being impregnated is that impregnation only affects the bodily autonomy of the person being impregnated. There are other consequences and many of them are shared by both persons but the bodily autonomy part is present on in one.


(I see what you did there)

There's a little difference, you wouldn't be the one getting pregnant.

It's more like she lied about being HIV positive.

That is, in fact, a crime.


She can get pregnant and use the courts to force you to pay child support for the next 18 years. I'd say it's no less serious.


That is a well known "business" in some places.


That says a lot about how foolish men are in those "business" places, assuming they even exist...


She can't get pregnant.

You can make her pregnant.

If you don't want to risk it, use a condom.

Is it so hard?




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