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>In Minnesota red light cameras and such automated ticketing systems were determined to be illegal (for the state):

>The result? Minnesota isn't experiencing some sort of Mad Max like traffic apocalypses, things seem pretty normal and I don't know of any dramatic disparity between places that use such cameras and those who do not. Meanwhile corruption and other issues cloud the traffic camera world... it's a product that arguably encourages / benefits bad actors, and possibly nobody else despite what we might otherwise think it does.

There are so many areas of law and law enforcement that are like this. Turns out if you just let people do whatever most people will do what society considers reasonable because at scale what people do determines what society considers reasonable.



Don't want to get into a political debate, but this is a lot of the principles of modern anarchism (sometimes called "AnCom"). I am unsure of the feasability of such a society, but it is interesting to read about theories and ideas if anyone wants to learn more.


The history of law enforcement certainly seems to be a long line of misguided actions with results we might not expect / incentives that are not good.


> There are so many areas of law and law enforcement that are like this. Turns out if you just let people do whatever most people will do what society considers reasonable because at scale what people do determines what society considers reasonable.

This is part of the core argument for libertarianism - and has been my experience in life. Generally every time I head someone should "there ought to be a law against that" there probably shouldn't be one without considerable thought on the matter.




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