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In reply to contempt motion, Elon Musk gaslights SEC with an alternate reality (latimes.com)
10 points by AndrewBissell on March 12, 2019 | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments


These arguments aren’t going to sway a judge or the SEC, it almost feels amateurish. Of course I presume that Musk and Tesla’s lawyer are very competent, but they have to work with what they’re given. I suppose the brief can be seen as red meat for his most loyal base, but so what? This isn’t a political campaign or a popularly contest, and it almost seems calculated to piss off the regulator that has Musk’s balls in a vise.

Musk just confuses the hell out of me. On one hand he started SpaceX, which is a ballsy and amazing company on track to bring launch costs down over the long haul. He seems to have has the wisdom to put competent people in charge of it, and then stick to the PR game he sometimes excels at. On the other hand we have Tesla, which he burdened with SolarCity and his own bizarre behavior. It’s a really weird situation, and if he didn’t have such a favorably stacked board and s grip on the company it’s hard to imagine he’d still be around.

Weirdly the only realistic way he loses his job at Tesla is if the SEC kicks him all the way off, and he’s practically waving a red flag at them! What is the point of this? His ego can’t possibly be thst fragile, and surely someone in his life can tell him to shut up.


One possibility is that Musk recognizes Tesla is headed for disaster and wouldn't mind having his forced removal by a government regulator to blame for the outcome.


Single-issue accounts are not allowed here, and for weeks you've posted about nothing but this. If you would please stop, we'd be grateful. HN is for intellectual curiosity, not fixed agendas.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Wow gaslights and alternate reality. That's some very emotive language. That's a red flag to me that it's going to be more of an opinion piece rather than news.

It's very hard to get a balanced summary from a news outlet now days.


> That's a red flag to me that it's going to be more of an opinion piece rather than news.

Well, yeah, it's explicitly tagged editorial (“column”) content. Opinion columns have opinion pieces...not really surprising.

> It's very hard to get a balanced summary from a news outlet now days.

Yeah, it's too bad the same news outlet didn't carry a straight news piece on the same story.

Oh, wait, they did: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-elon-musk-tweets-s...


That should probably be the story posted to this site, not the editorialized one.


Analysis pieces are no less on-topic and often mat least as appropriate for HN than bare news pieces, and I don't think that, obnoxious headline aside, that is untrue of the content here.

But if you think it's inappropriate you can and should flag it and move on, rather than making ludicrous complaints about it being a sign of a trend of outlets making it hard to find straight news when the same outlet that published the column also carried a straight news piece on the same event.


Without going into the conspiratorial hysterics that one often sees in discussions of Musk-centric stories, LA Times has a long track record of painting Tesla, SpaceX, and Musk negatively.


https://electrek.co/ is the best news outlet covering Tesla


And the demise of the distinction of the term "gaslighting" from "lying" is now complete.




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