> This same discussion is occurring regarding tomatoes, as if having eaten a ripe garden tomato is some exclusive experience
Well, I ate many ripe garden tomato, and not it's not some exclusive experience. They are still not as good as they should be. They are much better, but it's still a far cry from what everybody should be able to eat.
My message is not "I'm great, I know tomatoes and you don't". My message is "it's fucked up, we managed to screw up the production of something amazing". We are trading quantity for quality, a little more every day, and now the standard people have is very low. And so they buy so-so things for a premium, and are happy with it, or chose to buy the junk food.
A tomato from your garden can only be as good as the cultivar. If you plant shitty tomatoes and grow them well, they'll still be shitty, albeit fresh, tomatoes.
What are you trying to say? That the current trendy breeds of tomatoes aren't real tomatoes? Heirloom tomato breeds are very much in vogue these days as far as I know
Not OP, and I'm slightly exaggerating for effect, but I would say that if a fresh ripe tomato is not the best tasting food you've ever eaten, then you haven't had a "real" tomato.
What is the point of covering the taste of tomato with bread mayo, much less the dodgy vegan approximation? If you are going that far, crispy thick-cut bacon and fresh lettuce are required.
I grew up in NJ and grew many varieties over the years, some are crap and others are near the best tasting thing. Part of the problem is all the good varieties don't ship well so you mostly will not find them in grocery stores. The other issue is the genetics drift after some years.
Our state university managed to release the heirloom varieties that the state was famous for.[1] My favorite were Ramapos.
> This same discussion is occurring regarding tomatoes, as if having eaten a ripe garden tomato is some exclusive experience
Well, I ate many ripe garden tomato, and not it's not some exclusive experience. They are still not as good as they should be. They are much better, but it's still a far cry from what everybody should be able to eat.
My message is not "I'm great, I know tomatoes and you don't". My message is "it's fucked up, we managed to screw up the production of something amazing". We are trading quantity for quality, a little more every day, and now the standard people have is very low. And so they buy so-so things for a premium, and are happy with it, or chose to buy the junk food.