On: Delta Chat

[fredley]

In principle, email is just exchanging TCP packets with a dumbed down interface.

[miguelmota → fredley]

In principle, TCP packets are just bits with a dumbed down interface.

[syfluqs → miguelmota]

In principle, bits are just voltage levels with a dumbed down interface

[grawprog → syfluqs]

In principle voltage levels are just a measurement of electron flow with a dumbed down interface.

[grifball → grawprog]

oh god, please don't turn HN into reddit

[nvr219 → grifball]

oopsie

[chrisshroba → syfluqs]

https://xkcd.com/435/

[bigbadgoose → chrisshroba]

Ha! From another article currently on front page:

> "Arkani-Hamed now sees the ultimate goal of physics as figuring out the mathematical question from which all the answers flow."

(https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/a-different-kind-...)

[fxj → fredley]

But email relies on free and open source standards while instant messaging is a walled garden that relies on closed protocols by some shady corporations that sell your data.

[grey_earthling → fxj]

XMPP and Matrix (and arguably ActivityPub) are open specifications for IM, each with multiple interoperable implementations. (I'm counting mxhsd as a 2nd implementation of a Matrix server; I accept that it isn't mature yet.)

[Spivak → fxj]

Compared to... a walled garden that relies on secret algorithms written by shady corporations that sell your data.