On: HIV status of over 14,000 people leaked online, Si...

[NeedMoreTea → lostmsu]

That's an argument for publicising every issue that might damage others if drunk, negligent or careless.

Hepatitis, short temper, gun ownership, knife ownership, herpes, syphilis etc. In fact why not everyone's medical records, just in case?

If not, why do those infected with this virus deserve special public demonisation?

For the avoidance of doubt, I think this would be a terrible idea.

[lostmsu → NeedMoreTea]

Right. One just has to weight risks on publishing vs keeping private on every such issue, and expose ones with the highest shift to the later.

[dictum → lostmsu]

I'm not sure how "HIV+ positive people must be tracked" follows from "HIV+ people can make mistakes".

By that logic, everyone's movements and personal details should be tracked by the police/government/some third-party because there's a risk, someday, of someone sexually assaulting (or committing any other crime against) someone else.

[lostmsu → dictum]

I am a radical anti-privacy person, so I am all for a variant of that, where the 3rd party is everyone.

"That logic" assumes there's little harm in having that data public. Unlike police tracking, which has proven to be a terrible idea.

[IAmEveryone → lostmsu]

Please tell us your name, address, and a link to a nude photo.

[lostmsu → IAmEveryone]

Most of that is a public information, that you can look up.

Can't give you a link to a nude photo, as I don't have one.

But surely you must understand, no privacy can only work when it is universal. Its a simple prisoner's dilemma.

[matt4077 → lostmsu]

@> no privacy can only work when it is universal.

Great, so you agree there shouldn’t be a HIV database, until everyone’s nudes, income, and porn searches are online.

I can life with that, actually.

[thecatspaw → lostmsu]

> Most of that is a public information, that you can look up.

So, Victor, is that why you're hiding behind a pseudonym and avoiding questions?

[isostatic → lostmsu]

And when two drunk people hook up the first thing they do is check a leak of hiv data? Is that after exchanging photo ID?

[maccard → isostatic]

Don't be ridiculous.

Brand everyone with QR codes that can be scanned to show a quick list of things like HIV, mental health issues, wrong political beliefs.

I'm pretty sure there's ways to design QR codes, so we could come up with a way to embed a brand of a few of the "worst" traits so you can see before you scan.

[lostmsu → maccard]

Would be fine if you'd also keep and make public the audit logs.

[krageon → lostmsu]

I think you're seeing some cultural difference here. That is, assuming this is actually the sort of thing you do in real life.

[lostmsu → krageon]

I honestly have no idea what do drunk people do, that leads to random intercourses. It is an "educated guess", that in many if not the most cases the participants know each other.

And looking people up on the Internet is a common thing nowadays.

[dictum → lostmsu]

> I honestly have no idea what do drunk people do, that leads to random intercourses.

Suggesting public policy that affects a group whose activities and motivations I'm ignorant about is quite the gamble.

[krageon → lostmsu]

Maybe it would be a good idea for you to actually understand the problem domain you're inventing solutions for before you start thinking up far-reaching methods to mitigate a problem using a method that is unlikely to be used the way you intend it to. Especially if said methods have the potential to impact actual people's lives in a very negative way.