On: AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones

[gsich]

GPS is receive only, no mobile data is used there.

[rzzzt → gsich]

Assisted GPS might require data/mobile network connection for the brief period of time the phone figures out where it is, roughly.

[bayindirh → rzzzt]

Assisted GPS talks with the towers around, pings them for distance and gets their coordinates. It's happening on the GSM layer. It's also a no-data exchange IIRC.

[gsich → bayindirh]

No, I think it's only downloading almanach data for faster GPS.

[bayindirh → gsich]

It's one of the operational modes. On the other mode it calculates the location on behalf of the user and responds back with it [0].

In both modes data connection is required, so I'm mistaken.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

[giancarlostoro → gsich]

Google Maps uses mobile data to render the maps though do they not?

[gsich → giancarlostoro]

But how is this related to GPS?