>Does any other language even come close to this? Smalltalk

black-tea · on Nov 29, 2018

Interesting. But one of the points of Clojure is to get away from the object-oriented way so I'm not sure that I'd like Smalltalk.

z3phyr · on Nov 30, 2018

You have to try it to really understand what OO actually is. Its not the OO you might be familiar with..

pjmlp · on Nov 30, 2018

Yeah that is why it supports a subset of CLOS.

felixgallo · on Nov 29, 2018

Erlang and elixir.

chillpenguin · on Nov 29, 2018

If I understand it correctly, Smalltalk is really nothing like Java and the mainstream OOP that Clojure is a reaction to.

pjmlp · on Nov 30, 2018

Smalltalk is dynamic and Java is static.

Smalltalk, it is an experience, given that language, IDE and runtime/OS are all blended together, while Java can only do so much, even with the more advanced IDEs.

Clojure might be a reaction to C++/Java/C# OOP style, but it surely adopts Common Lisp OOP style.

zimablue · on Nov 30, 2018

I think if things have private state that can't be seen externally and that's idiomatic then there's a conflict, if not then there isn't. Do you think it's worth learning Smalltalk? Is it still possible?

cjallen88 · on Nov 30, 2018

Have a look at http://pharo.org/documentation (a modern smalltalk implementation), they have some good materials, also a discord server.

I think it's worth learning, even if you never use it.