On: Processing ported to JavaScript

[jeresig]

Firefox 3 supports native text rendering. There's a couple demos that show this (although you're out in the cold in other browsers, for now at least).

[llimllib → jeresig]

Yup it does, and it's been recently added to the spec (http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#text). Unfortunately, the font rendering as currently in the spec won't return the path of the font, which is a feature that allows nodebox to do some really neat things (eg http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/LetterKnitter).

[gravity → jeresig]

Is there any word on whether other browsers will be implementing this in the future? It's what's keeping me from using canvas today, and partially what's keeping me from writing a certain app I've been thinking about for a little while.

[andreyf → gravity]

partially what's keeping me from writing a certain app I've been thinking about for a little while

Have you played with SVG?

[llimllib → andreyf]

In my experience it's painfully slow and advanced features are spottily supported on every implementation I've tried; is yours different?

[jsrn → llimllib]

I've tested some of my SVG demos with FF 3 and they run much faster than with FF 2 (I think that's due to Cairo being integrated into Firefox 3). Opera and Safari are very fast compared to FF 2, too.

As for feature completeness I agree with you. The Firefox SVG team is very small and not funded by the Mozilla corporation (at least that was the case last year when I talked to one of its members) - the SVG standard, on the other hand, is HUGE.

[andreyf → llimllib]

I'm using it for a simple web app, testing in FF2/FF3/Safari, seems to work fine... there are some annoying bugs in the implementation (the kind that have been open for years), and inconsistencies between Safari and FF, but nothing I couldn't work around so far.

What were your issues?

[gibsonf1 → andreyf]

We started by using graphviz to generate svg, but then couldn't find any decent in-line svg viewers. Do you know of any non-java applet inline svg viewers?

[gravity → andreyf]

Not yet, I've looked at it a bit but haven't looked in to browser compatability at all.