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> At a certain point you will end up on one or more blacklists, and there is no clear way to get off it again, or even arbitrage this act.

> There are rules in preparation (or already implemented) where your network of friends and relatives affect your credit score, etc.

Are these your opinions or facts? I'm talking about facts here.




Besides the link I already provided, there are countless other articles about the blacklists:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+social+credit+blacklist&t=fp...

There are also many mentions of your friends network affecting your score, like in this Wired article from 2017:

> Zhima Credit’s algorithm considers not only whether you repay your bills but also what you buy, what degrees you hold, and the scores of your friends.

https://www.wired.com/story/age-of-social-credit/


> Zhima Credit’s algorithm considers not only whether you repay your bills but also what you buy, what degrees you hold, and the scores of your friends.

I think you misunderstood what this means. It means when taking loans, the algorithm takes into account your score as well as your friends. This assertion in itself I must say I didn't find from any other sources.

This, even if proven to true, is completely different from what you are suggesting (i.e. your friend's score affecting your score).

Also, this Zhima Credit is just a private owned, part of the system which focuses on financial well being of individuals, it's not linked to other component of the system. Other social score components might not have this network effect.


I don't think I misunderstand. Another example:

> But that is not the half of it. Scores will also be awarded to citizens according to who they associate with. If your social media connections consist exclusively of senior government officials and respectable party ideologues, the chances are the presiding algorithm will allot you the equivalent of a triple-A rating. But if you happen to have exchanged messages with someone who is friends with a human rights lawyer or the imam at the local mosque, you could rapidly find your status cut to junk.

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2131737/china...

I was looking for another article that explains it in more detail still, but cannot find it. But have seen this described in many places. I haven't been to China, and can't tell how far they are in their implementation. Just going from news sources.


1. This is literally an opinion piece.

2. The author seems to reference the official document from the government. I did an extensive review of official document on social credit system (link in my profile), and didn't find anything describing such thing.

Maybe it is just a feature of the Zhima Credit (a private financial credit system), which happens to be included social credit system.


Thanks. I sure hope you are right and it will not (and never) end up in the official system, and that all the articles mentioning it are just speculating or sensationalising their story.

To me, as a lay man reading about all that is planned already, it does not seem all that far-fetched to see this being implemented soon. But as you rightfully say: it's the facts that count.




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