Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

In all seriousness, that's not malware though. Facebook is a big company competing directly with Google: it makes sense that they want a similar level of access to market insights as their competitor has.

Google collects a lot of data [3], including app and website usage [2] too. They have full access all the analytics a phone OS can provide, after all.

I'm not saying this is ok, but if we claim this is malware then Android is malware too. I rather reserve the malware label to software that is directly designed to harm.

PS: Apple collects app usage too [1], but IMO they're at least more clear about it.

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202100

[2] https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols

[3] https://privacy.google.com/your-data.html

EDIT: Why the downvote? Rather than downvoting, some constructive discussion on spyware and business practices would be IMO more welcome.




> I'm not saying this is ok, but if we claim this is malware then Android is malware too.

Sure, it is. Or spyware, at least. So is Windows.

> I rather reserve the malware label to software that is directly designed to harm.

Stealing data is harmful. I mean, consider the OpenSSH user enumeration vulnerability.


I agree with this sentiment. This is no more harmful than a web mail client that collections personal information for targeted ads, or a mobile operating system by an ads company. The best thing Google has is their marketing department.


> but if we claim this is malware then Android is malware too.

It is? Android is completely ridden with dark patterns[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern




Join us for AI Startup School this June 16-17 in San Francisco!

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: