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People are angry about elites and somehow they could be convinced to vote for a guy who is part of the elite, hires mainly people from the 0.1% and makes policies for the 0.1%. In addition the Christian value voters could be convinced to vote for a serial cheater and liar. That's true genius.



To be fair, almost every leader portrays themselves as a “man of The People” when this is almost never the case. Even authoritarian dictators like Gaddafi claimed this in order to lend legitimacy to their rule. What’s really surprising is that it actually often works, at least as long as the leader keeps handing The People table scraps that is.

In the United States, I find the phenomena of well educated, wealthy republican businessmen playing themselves up as—for lack of a better term—Good ol’ Boys to be a particularly ugly version of this. It’s a cynical and demeaning farce, yet it still seems to get results.

Perhaps the root cause is that true men of The People rarely make it to power. Perhaps it is some human quirk: a primal desire to latch on to leaders and identify with them. Whatever it is, it doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon so I guess you can either try to fight it or exploit it.


> somehow they could be convinced to vote for a guy who is part of the elite

You're politically left, that's why you don't see it. This is your blindspot.

Trump could be the leader of the elites, but he doesn't act, or talk like the 'elite', and most important of all, nearly all the elites genuinely loathe and hate him.

Bloomberg is part of the elite. If Bloomberg ran for election then the site which hates elite will not vote for him.

In fact, even if he did talk exactly like how Bloomberg, Laureen Powell Jobs, Zuckerberg, Hillary Clinton, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, etc talk, he is the anti-elite because all the elites hate him.

It's sad that the who explicitly prefixes his claim as 'dare I say' is being downvoted because you don't like what he said.


I’m not sure why it matters who loves/hates him or what to classify him as. Only his actions matter and his actions are propping up the 1%.


In what sense is Trump not elite? He was born elite, grew up elite and does things for the elite. In the context of the US being governed by and for the rich he is part of that trend. Maybe he uses different talk than the elite you mention. But they all have the same interest which is to amass as much money as they can in their own hands. None of these people cares about making life better for the average citizen. Maybe they do in an abstract sense but do nothing (like me caring for poor people around the world and doing nothing).

The elite are the people with money. They have the real power.


> In what sense is Trump not elite?

When did I say that he is not elite? That wasn't even remotely my point.


What was your point? I am curious.


Ok lets put it this way. Lets just say it is discovered that Jesus was actually a banker himself. Does that really change the fact that he purged the bankers/money changers form the temple of Jersualem?

And because he did that, do anti-bankers and money changers care about the fact that Jesus himself was a banker and a money changer? Especially since the banker community repeatedly comes to the television and talks about how Jesus is breaking the fabric of our society and throws a barrage of anti-Jesus message through media?

Look, Bernie Sanders made $1 million second year in a row, but do Democratic Socialists care about it? He is far richer than most of his followers would ever be, but if Jeff Bezos writes Editorials talking about how horrible Bernie Sanders is, then it just gives Bernie more credibility, irrespective of his newfound wealth.


The anti bankers should care if Jesus was a banker, did not purge the bankers from the temple but the only thing he did was not to talk like a banker.

I think we are talking about the same thing. Watch what people do, not what they say and not where they come from. Trump got elected by the little guy because he talked for the little guy but in reality he is another rich guy who acts for his people.


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