On: How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live streams

[isostatic]

30 seconds?

1 minute 40 -- that's the time from the neighbours shouting and the goal going in -- on iphone, on mac/chrome, and on LG TV

It's hilarious.

[Carioca → isostatic]

Wow, here in Brazil a 10-second lag is already unbearable... No matter where you are in a big city, you can hear the city erupt in different ways when the national team is playing

[fernandotakai → Carioca]

haha, that's true. it got to a point where my wife and i would close all the windows and watch the game using headphones on the tv because it was basically impossible not to hear "spoilers".

now one thing i'm impressed is that the internet transmission from SporTV had basically zero lag when compared to the TV one.

[outworlder → Carioca]

10 seconds for the digital, vs analog broadcasts, correct?

This article talks about the 'broadcast' over internet, which is even worse.

[Carioca → outworlder]

Analog signals are being phased out and no longer work in the largest cities. The difference here is mostly in OTA vs cable vs streaming, all digital.

[sofaofthedamned → isostatic]

You get the same in the UK over terrestrial tv depending on whether you're watching on the old mpeg2 standard def channel or the newer mpeg4 hi def, the latter is around 8 seconds behind.

Don't get me on satellite latency 20 years ago where people used to make money on betting on horse races where the data feeds in betting shops were about 40 seconds delayed...

[repolfx → sofaofthedamned]

It was there on the switch from analogue to digital too. The digital channels were usually about 5 seconds behind.

[isostatic → sofaofthedamned]

100 seconds is two orders of magnitude later.

Satellite adds far than a second.

[sofaofthedamned → isostatic]

I'm on about the time for the satellite data feeds from horse racing events which included collating, transcribing, etc.

[ajmurmann → isostatic]

It's super frustrating. My mother has ruined several matches this year by emailing me results before I see them on the stream.

[TrunkleBob → ajmurmann]

My cousin was nice enough to call at kickoff and paused his game until the FuboTV feed that I was watching caught up. Then we could text spoiler free for the rest of the game.

[sv12l → ajmurmann]

Why did you open the email when you knew its going to be a spoiler? :)

[ajmurmann → sv12l]

Because it popped up as a notification on my phone and the spoiler was the terse subject line

[sv12l → ajmurmann]

she is clever indeed.

[contravariant → ajmurmann]

Clearly you should use a script to delay your emails by 1:40 as well.

[reaperducer → ajmurmann]

Coolest. Mom. Ever.

[sova → isostatic]

Haha, sounds like the conditions are perfect for becoming a last minute bookie.

[isostatic → sova]

I snuck an earlier feed via good old fashioned RTP (for testing purposes), and saw an england goal in the quarter finals 3 seconds ahead of them :D

I was really looking forward to the final, especially if it went to penalities :(

[Rjevski → isostatic]

I actually wonder why they don’t offer basic RTP streams. Sure, this new HLS thing is often better for mobiles and shit connections but when I’m on a 500Mbps connection in the office and want to watch the World Cup, couldn’t they just cut the HLS crap and give me raw RTP?