Went https and it is causing me to have infinity redirect loops.
Thinking WP is causing it and want to edit the wp_options file.
Doing select * from wp_options has the text going off the screen.
But yes, this is basically emergency, 250 people have not been able to get onto the site. I'm half considering reverting back to sunday undoing a week of work.
(keep a copy of the original db just in case)