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It seems to me it is an elitist view that when you provide a service to the unwashed masses, it must be of lower quality

But it must be. An institution with AAA A-level students can teach more advanced material at a faster pace than one that admits EEEs. This is surely obvious, no?

It doesn’t mean anyone is better or worse in a moral sense, it just means more or less academically able.



They don't have to admit the EEE-level students, they don't have to water down.

Yes, politically, it turns out, that universities were chopped up into research institutions (or research institutions were spun off from universities) and diploma mills, because even that shit level 2-3 years that people take to earn a Bachelor's degree means a lot on the job market.


But that's easily solved by having institutions for multiple A* students, and other institutions for EEE students. Which is the way it actually is.


Well yes, but it’s not a reasonable system if non-Russell degrees cost as much but are actually irrelevant. Shouldn’t those students be funnelled towards qualifications and vocations for which there is real demand?

There was nothing wrong with Polys when they were Polys.


They don't, in practice, because what you repay is linked to what you earn.


Not at all.

The ability to learn at university is not correlated with A-level results.

Mastery of the material can help give a good starting point, but I've worked with fantastic E/D/C students and terrible AAA students.


ability to learn at university is not correlated with A-level results

This is incorrect. They are obviously not 100% correlated (even re-sitting the same exam isn't!) but the correlation is extremely strong.


> I've worked with fantastic E/D/C students and terrible AAA students

The existence of outliers doesn't disprove a correlation.


> The ability to learn at university is not correlated with A-level results.

I’m very confident that this is false. Citation needed.


Just because they accept them doesn't mean they need to keep them. If the students can't keep up, that's on them.


It's pretty repugnant to accept students that have no capability to perform, take their money, and boot them when they fail out because they aren't prepared or equipped.




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