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Barbara Bush Dies at 92 (nytimes.com)
89 points by utternerd on April 18, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 23 comments


Is Barbara the only person in history to have blood ties to more than one president and live through both of their tenures as president? I looked at Abigail Adams and co but it seems that she didn't live through both her husband's and son's presidencies like Barbara.

Perhaps the most influential woman (literally) in American history edit: politically.


Jeb Bush lived through both his dad and his brother's presidency too (though his career might not have).


Not going to lie, I totally forgot about him. Nice catch!


And George W Bush's children?


And his three other siblings.


So basically all of the Bush family


Eleanor Roosevelt was distantly related to both presidents Roosevelt (closer to Theodore). She would be an obvious rival for most influential first lady, as well.


Depends a lot on who you believe about FDR and her. I think Barbara Bush probably raised a bit more money and had a bigger impact on more people even if some don’t realize it. The loss of her daughter at a very young age had a profound impact on her charity work.


I don't think your spouse is considered a blood tie.


> Perhaps the most influential woman (literally) in American history

That's a little far fetched.


I'm not sure why this is downvoted. Even limited to politics, it would be tough to compete with Harriet Beecher Stowe or Rosa Parks.


I didn't downvote, but it does seem to violate this HN guideline:

> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

And potentially this one since she is clearly a political figure:

> Please don't use Hacker News primarily for political or ideological battle...

Again I don't agree with that, just speculating at reasons why.


Rosa Parks, I would argue, was limited to a particular sphere of influence (civil rights), whereas the president's wife may have his ear directly, every day of his entire career, in every field, from diplomacy to economic development to national infrastructure to military strategy to civil rights, theoretically.

And then your son is also the president? Talk about power.


How about Rachel Carson or Louisa May Alcott? Sorry if this is off topic, but I find it fascinating how American history is increasingly viewed through the lens of race relations.


Just to be clear, this was a response to the comment.

I do not have any opinion on Barbara Bush in particular other than knowing that she has a lifetime of experience in top American political circles and has been widely respected for that.


Many thanks to Mrs. Bush for all her contributions to the children's hospital in Portland, Maine that bears her name.


What an impactful life. Very amusing how she told W, as president, to keep his feet off a table one time. And there’s at least a six-figure body count from the needless decisions of her son and husband whose political careers she supported. Very charitable woman as well.


  “Why should we hear about body bags and 
   deaths, and how many, what day it’s going 
   to happen?” she asked. “Why would I waste 
   my beautiful mind on something like that?”



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That's a curious association to make. The only thing Barbara Bush and Adolf Hitler's mother have in common is that they were both related to important political figures. However, Klara Polzl was not politically influential or important. Barbara Bush was. So to answer your question, no, there would not be such a post for Klara, and not just because the internet didn't exist 110 years ago.

Unless, of course, you think there's something else they share in common. Please elaborate.


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Ah, there it is. The old "I don't like $rightWingPolitician, so they're Literally Hitler (TM)" argument. Pretty much what I expected.

If your understanding of politics and history is so comically simplistic, then we have nothing more to discuss.


The death of a significant figure is a significant event.

Perhaps there's an argument to be made for keeping this content off HN, in a similar vein to the treatment of other political content on HN, if it reduces commentary like yours.


> keeping this content off HN, in a similar vein to the treatment of other political content on HN

"Political" content, to the degree that the word "political" is a meaningful disambiguator or characterization, is not kept off HN. Rather the guideline is:

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. [...] If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

This story seems to be square down the middle of this "off-topic" description.




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