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Empty half the Earth of its humans. It's the only way to save the planet (theguardian.com)
21 points by _emacsomancer_ on March 24, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 16 comments


I think it would be cool to set up some incentives for greater parklands and agricultural lands with the goal of high density metro areas and low density rest.

Although the US already sort of has this with 91 people per square mile- https://www.statista.com/statistics/183475/united-states-pop...


It seems like the lock-in of homes creating anti-density thinking is going to be a big problem. If I was a dictator of urban design, I would just build 100 floor apartments with 2-3 bedrooms and leave everything else as parkland.


Kim Stanley Robinson's works have been steadily drifting in the direction of despair and apocalyptic scenarios. By now he probably regrets writing the Mars trilogy -- his deepest sympathies having drifted more and more towards his few characters who radically opposed the establishment of human civilization there.

On a side note, I find it interesting that he asserts that the ideal level of CO2 is at 350 ppm. I'd like to understand why one should want it so low, since dipping to 150 ppm would cause massive land-based extinction of plants.


I'm a remote coder who lives in a rural county where the population density is 0.5 people per square mile. Today I made an infrequent visit to a big city with a density of over 2,000 people per square mile.

It kinda freaked me out, an effect that has grown over the years. It would be psychologically traumatic to me to be forced to live in a city, to the point where if forced by poor health or poverty I may prefer to die in place. City life is deficient in peace and joy by comparison. I pity the bunnies living in our great rabbit warrens. What a cruel thing to do to humanity, to force them there.

Here's an alternative plan. Wealth appears to depress population growth. The wealthiest countries are generally those bending toward depopulation the fastest. So instead let's get so wealthy that population falls enough that a much larger fraction of us can have the great privilege of a rural life.


When farmers force chickens and cows to live in high density communes, they are decried as inhumane and people advocate for low density farming practices.

Apparently, the opposite is advocated for humans.


"This situation can’t endure for long – years, perhaps, but not decades."

Time will prove this to be nonsense.


Yes, that line struck me too. I wouldn't have balked so much at something like "This situation can’t endure for long – decades, perhaps, but not centuries."


I think the date on this quote is 1900.

People who speak in absolutes, I typically ignore. Or I really evaluate the raw data.


Nah, just stop the greedy assholes who consume way more reaources than they need to, redistribute what we have, and kill capitalism not people.


I agree. Killing capitalism will result in a massive amount of dead people.


I think here perhaps not capitalism per se is intended, but something like corporatism?


Good point in population being a provlem. Should have told this to the ones leaving many countries in poverty, who then had to have double the number of children to ensure their survival.


Sounds good. I call dibs on being in the half that gets to live.


Please read the article before making comments. It is not about reducing the population count, but about creating larger natural areas by concentrating the population in cities.


Ah my mistake. I just read the article, sounds like they are pushing some kind of technocratic communism. No thanks!


Half the land. Not half the people.




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