On: Telegram told to give encryption keys to Russian authorities

[gagabity]

WhatsApp cant cooperate by design they don't have the keys although they do have some metadata, not sure about Viber.

[coolspot → gagabity]

My understanding is that law requires backdoor access [111], you cannot just shrug it off as "we are end-to-end" encrypted. You must have a backdoor or not allowed to operate in Russia.

[111] http://news.softpedia.com/news/russia-wants-encryption-backd...

[mercora → gagabity]

Maybe they could provide access to the phones data though. In more or less the same way WhatsApp Web works.

[mort96 → gagabity]

How do we know WhatsApp doesn't cooperate? It's closed source, and owned by Facebook no less, so how can we know there's no backdoor?

[gagabity → mort96]

You can analyse the traffic data being sent by the App, also there are third party Apps that work on the WhatsApp network.

[mort96 → gagabity]

You can maybe verify that the app doesn't currently send messages anywhere, but what if there's a way for Facebook to send a request to WhatsApp for a dump of all messages within a date range?