On: Why God Did Not Create the Universe

[alexandros]

What Hawking said is not that god does not exist, but that god is not required for the universe to exist. Subtle but important.

[steve19 → alexandros]

Evolution is not required for Homo sapiens to exist.

The above statement does not in any way infer that evolution did not result in humans. Subtle but important.

[jeromec → steve19]

Evolution is not required for Homo sapiens to exist.

How do you know? If you were framing your statement scientifically it would be "Evolution may not be required for Homo sapiens to exist", which, of course, scientists already understand. Theories are subject to change, and even be discarded altogether in light of better information, unlike faith which cannot change.

[steve19 → jeromec]

Your definition of faith is very narrow.

What certain institutions define as faith may not have changed in thousands of years.

Peoples personal beliefs and understanding of the spiritual change over time. I know mine have.

[jeromec → steve19]

Faith that a Creator exists without verifiable proof is inherently unchangeable -- that's why it's called faith. How one chooses to arrive at, or express that faith certainly may be subject to change.

[sigzero → alexandros]

That is correct. He also doesn't prove his point at all. Subtle but important.