Except there’s plenty of evidence for the former, and close to none for the latter. STEM is a field that has embraced diversity and equality of outcomes, with a genuine sense of desperation. STEM and especially technology companies are completely dominated by liberal and feminist thought. Sure you can point to a couple of ‘bad apples’, but you can point to far more examples where those ideologies drive organisations decision making from the top down. Not only is the culture argument weak to begin with (any competitive environment is going to be hostile on some level, to everybody), but it’s entirely laughable to say this applies in STEM, an industry that has embraced ‘diversity’ above all else.
>Except there’s plenty of evidence for the former, and close to none for the latter
> Sure you can point to a couple of ‘bad apples’
> you can point to a couple of ‘bad apples’, but you can point to far more examples where those ideologies drive organisations decision making from the top down.
I sure would love to see some citations for those opinions.
The evidence is clear in the choices people make. There are very clear gender differences in what people choose to study, and the jobs they subsequently pursue. You can’t simply blame ‘systemic oppression’ or ‘hostile environments’ for this, as our universities and tech giants all embrace liberalism and feminism to an extreme degree. How can environments that implement ‘safe spaces’, that provide systemic advantages to women, and that have 0 tolerance policies for anything that could be perceived as sexism possibly be perceived as hostile? Yet those environments are the norm now, and women are still far less interested in STEM than men.
Ya got me. “All” is a hyperbole. But it is undeniable that contemporary feminism dominates universities, you really have to be quite blind to miss that. It is also the dominant culture in Silicon Valley, of which Alphabet and Amazon are major proponents. Google pushes diversity so hard that it’s currently facing lawsuits claimings it’s diversity practices are illegal and discriminatory. Yet even after years of such practices taking place at google, it’s engineering workforce is still 80% male.
"Sure you can point to a couple of ‘bad apples’" - Literally every female colleague I know well enough to be comfortable talking about it has encountered more than a couple "bad apples".
I was referring to companies that are perceived to have ‘cultural issues’, like uber. Not companies that have a few dickheads working for them, which is going to be just about every company over a certain size. The presupposition is that there’s systemic oppression (which there isn’t), not that some people at work aren’t very nice.
