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		posterboy on Feb 10, 2018 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Visual Group Theory: What is a group? (2016) [vide... Oh, you mean apple counting? Well, you have to shift those apples close together to recognize them as a group of things.

OscarCunningham on Feb 10, 2018 [–]

Right, so it's still visual, but it's not an example of the original suggestion to only define groups as groups of permutations.

posterboy on Feb 10, 2018 | [–]

It isn't?

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