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Any objective source for your claims? If your basis is the attitude for such agencies here on hacker news, it’s understandable why you might believe those to be true, but they aren’t.



unable to recruit talent seems true at least

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16057449


Thomas Drake, Edward Snowden, Wikileaks, etc


Snowden & Wikileads have revealed themselves as operations run by the NSA's rightful targets.


Change your news sources. Fast.


I've worked directly with people in the IC, and I have friends who've worked (or currently work) at various government agencies.


Did they convey those summaries to you? If so, is it accurate to say that shtf post-Snowden, and hasn’t recovered?

You could be right, so I take it back, but I’ve heard there is some degree of strife and paranoia, but not general chaos as may be perceived.


It's mostly anecdotes and personal experience. I think that data on salaries, etc, is mostly public too, so you can probably see for yourself that they aren't competitive with SV or Wall St.


Discussed here recently, there’s a path from public to private sector that does serve the need to retain talent, to some degree.

Also, to say they are mostly corrupt or incompetent seems possibly too much of a broad stroke that is based on anecdotes. I don’t believe Snowden, for instance, ever suggested either of those are true — did he?

Finally, if this is your assessment, your standard may be unusually high. Maybe your peers, many not quite as good as you, are actually quite skilled? Just a hunch, could be wrong.


Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Any person or organization which contributes, aids, or abets in spying on individuals for political reasons is entirely corrupt in my opinion.

Aside from some research that the NSA has contributed to humanity, they have done little good based on the evidence I've seen.




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