Respect comes with competence. I respect her as an entertainer, because that is where her competence seems to be. I think her content is great and I enjoy her work.
> Are all professional rock musicians just guitar enthusiasts? My suspicion is that she is called so simply because of her gender, and that a male "entertainer", college drop out or not, would be called an engineer.
Would you trust that college drop out "engineer" to work on the bridge used by hundreds of thousands of people or fly in an airplane designed and built by that "engineer"? There are some disciplines that I think should very strictly and rigorously test for competence, because the alternative is people dying. Engineering is one of those disciplines, and so is medicine. I don't want a college drop out "surgeon" with no formal training in the discipline operating on my body. Maybe I am just not as trusting as you are. But I doubt most people follow the same line of reasoning that you do.
Can you provide some examples of a male entertainer who does the same type of work that Simon does but is labeled as an engineer?
Does this mean that people without engineering degrees should not apply to "frontend engineer" positions?
She frames herself as hobbyist, so I don't want go into war about this.
However given that pretty much everyone able to write a short script calls himself engineer, I find it ridiculous to defend sanctimony of the word in this context and not in equally inappropriate much more common use.
Every time this argument comes up, the first reaction is to talk about fields where lives are on the line: Would you trust a doctor without a degree? Etc.
These situations are comparatively rare. If you have to reach for them, it may as well be conceding the point: A dropout's work is just as good, yes, in all but a few corner cases.
In fact, they usually dropped out because some business was willing to pay them for their work now, rather than wait till they graduated.
> These situations are comparatively rare. If you have to reach for them, it may as well be conceding the point: A dropout's work is just as good, yes, in all but a few corner cases.
I think you unilaterally decided that these situations are rare. I wholeheartedly disagree with that sentiment. This is why we are having this debate.
> A dropout's work is just as good, yes, in all but a few corner cases.
You'd have to be seriously screwed up in the head to actually believe that as a fact. What possible line of reasoning can you be using to say that someone who is formally trained and educated in a discipline is worst or equal to someone who is not? Are you saying that formal education is a total waste of time?
Yes there are exceptions and there have been prodigious people who were ahead of their time but that is why we have a word to describe these extremely rare occurrences.
> In fact, they usually dropped out because some business was willing to pay them for their work now, rather than wait till they graduated.
> What possible line of reasoning can you be using to say that someone who is formally trained and educated in a discipline is worst or equal to someone who is not? Are you saying that formal education is a total waste of time?
I my experience from software development, self-thought developers tend to be more competent because they have learnt design principles through actual experience, and therefore have a deeper understanding of the rationale. School educated developers more often have learned design principles as dogma, and don't understand the context and limitations of the principles.
> Are all professional rock musicians just guitar enthusiasts? My suspicion is that she is called so simply because of her gender, and that a male "entertainer", college drop out or not, would be called an engineer.
Would you trust that college drop out "engineer" to work on the bridge used by hundreds of thousands of people or fly in an airplane designed and built by that "engineer"? There are some disciplines that I think should very strictly and rigorously test for competence, because the alternative is people dying. Engineering is one of those disciplines, and so is medicine. I don't want a college drop out "surgeon" with no formal training in the discipline operating on my body. Maybe I am just not as trusting as you are. But I doubt most people follow the same line of reasoning that you do.
Can you provide some examples of a male entertainer who does the same type of work that Simon does but is labeled as an engineer?