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You imply by framing without explicitly stating that "coordinated disclosure" is "unlimited time", but that's not the time frame under discussion.

I consider 24 hours notice bare minimum responsible disclosure, and 1 business day in the operating timezone of the company as an polite courtesy to the human beings who have to respond to uncoordinated security disclosures with emergency builds of their product.

What do you consider the bare minimum notice sufficient to respect the human beings who use the products we find vulns in? One business day? One hour? Zero seconds?

(Siguza, I'd also love to hear from you on this question, if you're willing to share. I know Apple said they don't need advance notice but if they hadn't, and offered no guidance, what would you have chosen?)




> I consider 24 hours notice bare minimum responsible disclosure

You can't possibly be serious? Have I fallen for some trolling here?!


That would be technically impossible, since you had no prior participation in this thread. I would have happily answered questions about my choice, but if your only question is “r u trolln” then there really is very little to say.

Rabble-rouse all you like, but unless you respond with whatever your personal bare minimum delay is, you risk being perceived as the troll in this exchange.


Given...

> I consider 24 hours notice bare minimum responsible disclosure

...it seems rather unfair of you to have a go at my reaction. But somewhat incredibly, it appears you are serious.

I don't have a bare minimum delay - I think the vulnerability discover should coordinate a 'sensible' and 'fair' disclose with the vendor. What 'sensible' and 'fair' means, really depends - how serious is the vulnerability? How many systems are affected? How quickly can the vendor patch, test and document a fix? How quickly can the fix be distributed?

It's a stretch to imagine a scenario where 24 hours is in any way sensible, fair or responsible. I'd be intrigued to know your reasoning.


Their reasoning probably rests on the word 'minimum', which you are typing but also completely ignoring.




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