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They have 27 engines, but the Soviet N1 still holds the record at 30[1]. For comparison the Saturn V first stage had 5.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N1_(rocket)



It holds the record for the number of engines but it never successfully flew more than about a minute and three of them blew up on the pad. Hopefully that will be different for FH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m79UO4HOQmc


Only 1 failed due to some engine issue though. The rest was guidance related I think.*

Tell you what why don't I actually read the wiki

1. Electronics issue

2. turbo pump exploded - material science

3. aerodynamics

4. blew the plumbing when 6 engines were planned shut down at higher altitude. I'd argue that's a control issue.


1.

The first launch did not fail due to that electronics issue though that was one of the first things to go wrong.

The propellant leak caused by Engine #2 issues is what caused the rocket to fail.

4.

Maybe if they had not shut them down that abruptly they could have avoided that particular failure mode.

All in all a pity that that program got cancelled, I still think it is one of the most beautiful rockets ever built.


I think it's also on the list for biggest non nuclear explosions ever.


After a few more design iterations I'm sure it'll exceed 30.

http://i.imgur.com/BX1HXkr.png


Fun fact, the difference is because the Soviet designers chose to guide the rocket by varying the thrust between many small fixed engines. The American designers chose to have a few large engines that could turn slightly.

I wonder which method the Falcon Heavy uses.


All F9 engines are gimballed. The center engines can gimbal further though, for extra control authority when landing.

The many smaller engines approach is useful for re-using boosters. When coming back in to land, the stage is almost empty, so very light compared to when it launched. The problem then is reducing thrust far enough to be able to do a propulsive landing. Even with one F9 engine lit, and it throttled down, there's still too much thrust to hover, so the timing has to be really good to reach zero velocity at zero altitude.


What's your source for that? I'd have assumed that the reason was the engineering effort required to produce an engine the size of the American F-1, leading to smaller engines, at which point it becomes more natural to steer with variable thrust than with gimballed engines.

The Soviets didn't produce anything rivaling the F-1 until the RD-170 in the mid-80s, and that uses 4 thrust chambers instead of 1 as the F-1.


I can still play back in my head the picture of those 5 engines roaring to life. Followed by the magic word "Liftoff!"




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