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What does Idaho provide? Rhode Island? What about the other states and territories that aren't the GDP powerhouses California, Texas, and New York?

They're U.S. citizens and have constitutional rights, so the economic value of their existence doesn't matter.



I don't know; living here in the rust belt has been a pretty harsh wake up call if you ask me. Economic value is primo in the U.S.

(It's shocking to see first-hand entire regions in various states of collapse; furthermore becoming normalized in pop culture.)


Last I checked, access to electrical power was not a constitutional right, so I'm not sure why you are bringing that up.


Who said access to electrical power was a constitutional right? I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.


...you did?

> They're U.S. citizens and have constitutional rights,

What are you talking about other than providing electrical service to PR?


I'm talking about the 14th amendment whichs protects citizens from discrimination, including their place of origin like Puerto Rico.

That's why you need to read the full sentence instead of taking out of context:

>They're U.S. citizens and have constitutional rights, so the economic value of their existence doesn't matter.


I also don't understand the context. I agree with your point, but saying that you can't discriminate against citizens according to the Constitution doesn't mean they are guaranteed access to power. I don't think the virtue of being a US citizens obliges someone to give them access to electricity.


Okay...so back to my original question...what does getting power service have to do with constitution rights?


As an aside, why do you use a second account to answer your own questions or participate in your own threads?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15646876

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=googlryas

In one thread you inadvertently out yourself, saying "despite having an account for more than 8 years", while posting on an account that is 18 months old, that is replying to a comment your parent account made.

In others, you quote your other account as a disinterested third party: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15554173

And there's a near 1:1 correlation between articles and comment threads where you and googlryas can be found (most often, but certainly not exclusively, on the topic of Trump / Republican / conservative politics, including how both accounts regularly refer to 'T_D', aka /r/the_donald).

Not particularly upfront or fair behavior?


Keep reading the history - I openly admit that I am the same account. I have a choice - "edit" respond, or use another account.

I appreciate the e-stalk, but that is really regardless of the point. What does this have to do with constitutional rights and a modern electrical grid?


> I appreciate the e-stalk, but that is really regardless of the point. What does this have to do with constitutional rights and a modern electrical grid?

Good question. In point of fact, the reading of your comment history (or e-stalking) was to see if there were examples of you using services most consider the government obligated to provide or support, without a specific Constitutional right explicitly naming them.

> Keep reading the history - I openly admit that I am the same account.

I don't think that's particularly ingenuous, though. "Keep reading my history and after several pages you may find an admission that they're both my accounts... if you're paying attention... if you even notice something odd in the first place..." when you're actively treating the two accounts as individuals 99% of the time (otherwise, why say "hey, user googlrys said something like that before", rather than "I said something like that before on my other account googlrys"?) and interacting between them in a manner that with very few exceptions doesn't say "we are one".


Again, avoiding the question Can we just agree that there is no constitutional right to electricity?

Constitutional rights are things the government can't do, not services they must provide. And yes, I do think government has a large role in our life, but it isn't because they are servicing our constitutional rights.


Potatoes, and soldiers, fer chrissakes. Most of the US military comes from conservative and benighted places.


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