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I don't understand the liquidity of bitcoin, maybe someone can please explain to me.

If I'd bought what today is, say, $100M, and I wanted to cash all of it out tomorrow, could I do it? Could I actually have $100M in my bank account the next day?

Edit: ok, not in one day. Let's say, over 6 months, whatever it takes. Can I withdraw $100M?



Actually, opposite all other answers here, YES.

If you were withdrawing $100M in BTC you wouldn’t do it using an exchange, you would use an OTC dealer, and yes you could absolutely do it in far less than 6 months.

Here’s a good intro blog post, you can find more by searching for “bitcoin otc” or various phrases containing “whales” (term for someone with lots of digital currency). https://vinnylingham.com/the-1-dont-use-bitcoin-exchanges-ff...

Also, noting: this article’s title is misleading or false. There are other and previous bitcoin billionaires who are not as public about it, though the actual article qualifies the claim a bit. Finalky: seeing all of the replies that state emphatically “no” and explain why makes me doubt all answers on hacker news that I trust.


Now I'm no crypto-currency expert, but from the outside looking in it seems like: In theory Bitcoin is worth $10k each or whatever it is now, but in actuality it's only worth whatever arbitrary limits the various 'exchanges' set on real-money withdraws? So how is this "decentralized"? There's still a semi-central location you have to go to in order to get any real, actual currency out of it.


Transactions in bitcoin, eg sending a bitcoin from one wallet to another, occur on the blockchain and are decentralized. The fiat value of bitcoin, however, is determined by supply and demand for that bitcoin-fiat cross, just like anything else in open markets. That trading for these crosses occur on the exchanges.

> There's still a semi-central location you have to go to in order to get any real, actual currency out of it

This is definitely still the case. The exchanges themselves, though, could potentially be implemented via blockchain. This would likely reduce transaction costs and could make them more secure. In this case the would actually be decentralized.


Once you have some cryptocurrency in your wallet, you don't go to the exchanges to do transactions. All transactions on the blockchain are done in a decentralised way without a 3rd party.


Most exchanges have limits on how much you can cash out per day so it's very unlikely you could do 100M in one pop.


To give you some concrete data: Right now you can do on GDAX and sell $10 million in BTC with only about 5% slippage. If you spread it out you can sell $100 million in 6 months no problem.


You can easily withdraw 100M and the only thing that will take weeks to process is the bank transfers.


According to coinmarket cap, daily volume is consistently 5bn+ a day now


A guy I used to work with quit many years ago to trade bitcoin.

He developed some buy/sell strategies that netted small profits, but he said it was hard to scale it up.

IIRC he said some days his trades alone counted for 10% of trading on the exchange. No idea which exchange it was or how long ago.

This also is basically buy-sell neutral, trying to get in/out same number of coins per day or per week. A number of other bitcoin market makers probably do something similar.

Given that, I wouldn't naively assume a daily volume number on exchange means the exchange could absorb an increase of one-sided sell orders that's even a good fraction of that volume notional without a major price drop.

Also given the lack of regulation I wonder how much of that volume is churning. Ie, fake trades just to increase volume (something illegal on regulated exchanges for stocks, swaps, and other financial products). Bitcoin billionaires have major incentives to keep BTC prices high, and I could seem them easily paying 'negligible' transaction costs to create artificial volume.

But of course I have no idea (like everybody else on this thread).


How much was he trading with? $1,000 - $10,000 - $100,000?


No idea, just that he claimed 10% of volume on some days (which is in cumulative # of bitcoins, not # of trades).


Does that answer the question at all? :-)


Very, very much no.




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