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PM team here, we just made an account to comment.

We actually agree with some of the points made above, but we'd like to add the following commentary...

Encrypting email while making it more usable than PGP is hard. There's no getting around that. Web crypto is always going to have some shortcomings, but web mail is on the rise, and at the end of the day, web crypto is better than no crypto.

That said, we have been working for some years towards moving ProtonMail encryption entirely to the local environment using our Bridge application, which will be released soon. There is also extensive R&D being done on end-to-end authentication and ensuring key validity.

You are correct in that it is not a level playing field. This is why the tech industry is fast becoming an oligarchy or even a monopoly, owned and controlled by a few big players. However, we think that not playing is taking the easy way out, so even though the game is 'rigged' against us, we have a great team of engineers who have decided to play anyways.



I've been working on using Service Workers to fix the trust issues of web crypto: http://blog.airbornos.com/post/2017/08/03/Transparent-Web-Ap...

Shoot me a message if you're interested in implementing something like that in ProtonMail.


Wow, this is very cool, I need to read more about that.


>web crypto is better than no crypto.

I seriously disagree on this (our company is facing similar challenges, and I've asked these question myself numerous times). It's not better, it's much worse.

"Some crypto" creates illusion of security, where you don't really know has it failed or not - frequently, there is no functional failure in cryptographic failure. It doesn't stop working, it stops providing the very guarantees you're using it for.

> However, we think that not playing is taking the easy way out, so even though the game is 'rigged' against us, we have a great team of engineers who have decided to play anyways.

Truly so, but you need to play better then ;) Godspeed!


Thanks, PM, for trying to tackle a hard problem. I've been a happy customer.

I've also been a happy customer of your VPN product, but I'd be happy to retire the OpenVPN app on my iPhone. Any word on an iOS app soon?




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