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I’ve used Sailfish OS on the original Jolla for a little more than two years from April 2015 through July 2017. Last month, I was finally fed up enough with the horribly slow and limited hardware (couldn’t play music and open OsmAND at the same time) and got a OnePlus 3T with LineageOS.

Tidbits of my personal opinion:

- SailfishOS is much more unixy - getting a shell, setting up a SSH server and syncing files with rsync was no problem at all. I have not yet understood the directory structure of LineageOS

- The permission of apps was a problem, but not more so than on my laptop. Ideally one could solve this by only installing trusted apps, but this was unfortunately not an option (Whatsapp)

- The native e-mail client actually knew about e-mail. On LineageOS, I had to install K9mail to get such simple things as proper treatment of signatures delimited by '-- '

- The user interface on Sailfish was much more usable, in particular the swipe gestures to quickly close apps as well as the tiled view from which you can directly interact with open and running apps. Feels more like a proper computer instead of a single-threaded/single-application-at-a-time thing.

- I actually trusted the team at Jolla with providing decent updates etc. With LineageOS, I am using some unofficial ROM provided by a random guy on a largely random forum which may or may not work with over-the-air updates (it’s claimed to work but I haven’t tried it yet). I definitely trust my phone less now than I did before.

- The hardware is of course much better on the OnePlus -- had Jolla/Sailfish sold something equally good or even only slightly worse, I would have bought that again.



> - The hardware is of course much better on the OnePlus -- had Jolla/Sailfish sold something equally good or even only slightly worse, I would have bought that again

They'll be releasing official SailfishOS images for Xperia X somewhere next month iirc, see https://sailfishos.org/community6/ (scroll down). It'll not be free however, the price they revealed is 50€, and iirc it's yearly.


The default Android client for mail isn't great. Google have developed various clients available on Play but I prefer the Outlook client. K9 is probably the best FOSS client from f-droid that I tried.


The OnePlus 3T seems to be officially supported by LineageOS[1].

I'd actually trust my phone more (using the official LineageOS build) as basic system components are FOSS (although there are some firmware blobs).

[1] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/oneplus3


> The OnePlus 3T seems to be officially supported by LineageOS[1].

Yes, but everything I have read, anybody who tried only the official ROM had various problems, e.g. with the camera. Hence I settled on an unofficial ROM.

But even if I used the official ROM, there is absolutely nothing on the LineageOS website that makes me trust them. No real names, no GPG keys, nothing. Just "The LineageOS project", a bunch of pseudonyms in the blog entries and apparently some LLC. Even their "Legal" sub-page does not contain anything at all.


I'd recommend Termux, which gives you a shell and apt. Termux is available from F-Droid, the free and open source app store.

No need for random forums. You should have been able to download an official LineageOS build from https://download.lineageos.org


Thanks, I’ll look into Termux!

> No need for random forums. You should have been able to download an official LineageOS build from https://download.lineageos.org

But even if this worked (from what I have read, others had problems), there still would be nothing to make me trust "LineageOS", as I said in the reply to your sibling - there is no real name associated to the project, no GPG key embedded in the web of trust anywhere that I can find and not even on the download page are actually signed binaries I can verify myself to be trustworthy. Not even the Wikipedia page of the project lists a single individual involved!


Surprisingly, the .zip files themselves contain an embedded TLS signature. There's a link in the footer of the download page which explains it.

But you're right, it's not GPG, and hence no web of trust behind LineageOS.




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