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What advice do you have for someone who's on a H1B visa, wants to co-found a startup, incorporate it, work on it part-time until it receives VC funding, and continue working at their H1B "day job" in the interim?

My understanding is that the H1B visa does not allow you to do any work for anyone apart from your visa sponsor. If a co-founder were to spend his evenings working on his startup which has been incorporated, I'm not sure if that would conflict with the above regulation, and if so, how to work around this.

I'd be happy to contact you privately if you prefer that.



It's possible to have two H-1B employers, one based on full-time employment and another based on part-time employment. This is referred to as concurrent H-1B employment and it requires two approved H-1B petitions.


So it's possible to found a company to sponsor a H1B for myself?


A lawyer once explained to me that there needs to be an employer - employee relationship. Basically, there needs to be a possibility of being fired. So if you have total control of a company the H1B visa would not be possible.


Not a lawyer: Yes, as long as there is an employer-employee relationship. Meaning, someone in your company should have the power to fire you, usually a Board of Directors.


I have the same question as well.


That's right, in the H-1B context, there needs to be an employer-employee relationship between the petitioning company and the sponsored worker and this (in the eyes of USCIS) ultimately means the ability of the petitioning company to fire the sponsored worker and otherwise control his or her employment.


So basically for a person on H1B to startup, can we take below as steps ? Please correct me if i am wrong !

1. A decide's to startup.

2. A find's 2 US citizens B & C as co-founders.

3. A gives idea to B & C and asks them to build a PRODUCT.

4. A takes 49% ownership, B & C takes 25.5 % ownership.

5. B & C finished building a MVP or SLC PRODUCT.

6. B & C apply for VC Fund.

7. B & C get X fund from Z.

8. B & C incorporate a COMPANY.

9. COMPANY sponsors H1B for A and hires A as co-founder.

10. A joins COMPANY.

11. A & B & C continue building their PRODUCT.

12. PRODUCT becomes successful.

13. A applies for STARTUP based Visa.

14. A becomes US Citizen

15. A starts COMPANY B.

Kindly tweak or update to fix any mistake in this process. I think it will be of great help to many and benefit everyone.


Oh wow !! So for giving the idea A takes 49% ownership?!


> COMPANY sponsors H1B for A and hires A as co-founder.

You cannot be hired as a cofounder you need to be hired as an employee.


"cofounder" is a legally meaningless SV term. There are three ways you can be associated with a company

1. Shareholder (anyone in the world, except few countries with sanctions)

2. On board of directors (varies from case to case)

3. Employee (requires immigration status)


Can one be hired as a CEO or CTO?

Does that count as an employee?

If one is a software developer at present in current petition can such person transfer his H1B to a role of CTO?

Are there any challenges in this?


A CEO, CTO, CFO, CXO etc. are all "employees", technically an employee is someone who works for the company (unpaid work also counts) the company.

E.g. You can have 100% equity, be sole shareholder, pay money to a manager/employee to conduct work/business. You can even derive a dividend from the said business. however you cannot "engage in business" which means that you cannot write code whose IP gets assigned to the company. You also cannot have day-to-day management responsibilities. If I remember correctly planning a business and/or attending meetings of board of directors is allowed.

At end of the day shareholding pattern trumps everything else.


100% equity would mean A would have 100% control right?

Then nobody can fire A. Hence 49%.

Can A have 100% ownership and incorporate a COMPANY and then assign BOD to COMPANY Where BOD have control over A but no ownership in company?

In this config can A just hire a employee D and pay him minimum wage according to DOL.

https://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm

Would this setup work?


The problem here is if you are A, then no one will give 49% stake to you because of your idea. This only works on paper but in reality you will get screwed.




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