This refers to Indian law allowing muslims to live under sharia for family matters.
The rule itself is referred to as "triple talaq" and is part of sharia. In Sunni islam, basically men can abandon women, without any (any) limit immediately and without consequences (they get to take possession of everything the woman owns as well). They can take the kids if they want, including kids that have been conceived but not born yet (technically they should take the kids, but that's not what happens in practice).
Women face progressively harsher physical punishments for abandoning a man. If they remarry without his permission, they face (extra cruel) execution (stoning, often with the kids and family forced to watch).
The problem with wikipedia articles is that they try to bury the message in detail. Read it through 5 times and you'll slowly realize what the rule is:
TLDR: in mainstream Sunni islam what I said is true. Allowing women contractual divorce is a Shi'a practice, and not practiced by >85% of muslims worldwide (what is it ?Essentially a prenup allowing for divorce under stated circumstances, which cannot be initiated directly by the woman). Once you look up the numbers, you'll see that the worst kind (the pure triple talaq) is followed by some ~80% of muslims worldwide, and the contractual thing is an exception for Shi'a only (and is one of the main stated reasons of recent Sunni genocides against Shi'a in the middle east). You'll see that the text does in fact say the overwhelming majority follows the worst practice, but not on your first read.
These statements in wikipedia are true, but they're true like saying "your phone company cannot just terminate your service", which is true. And then give the entire contract and details on how this contract is affected by 5 different jurisdictions, which is of course the entire rule. But all it serves is to cloud the issue.
Of course, in all realistic circumstances, your phone company can in fact just tell you to fuck off without so much as giving a reason.
> The rule itself is referred to as "triple talaq" and is part of sharia. In Sunni islam, basically men can abandon women, without any (any) limit immediately and without consequences.
It's worth noting that there is no consensus on the validity or meaning of triple talaq within Sunni Islam.
> they get to take possession of everything the woman owns as well
This is not true, I guess you are confusing it with a khula divorce in which the woman requests that the man divorce her. In this case, she has to give back the mahr (bride price).
> They can take the kids if they want, including kids that have been conceived but not born yet (technically they should take the kids, but that's not what happens in practice).
In Islam kids stay with the woman if they are below a certain age, and men take kids above a certain age.
> Women face progressively harsher physical punishments for abandoning a man. If they remarry without his permission, they face (extra cruel) execution (stoning, often with the kids and family forced to watch).
I'm not sure what you mean, a woman does not need to seek permission to remarry from her ex-husband. Her current husband does need to give permission for a khula divorce, there are other kinds of divorce e.g. by a court in cases of mistreatment or abandonment. Yes, in general only men are given the right to divorce for no reason.
Stoning is the hadd punishment for adultery, i.e. sex with someone one is not married to.
You are spreading misinformation with technically correct statements. Allow me to correct them:
> It's worth noting that there is no consensus on the validity or meaning of triple talaq within Sunni Islam.
True (as I pointed out. The biggest divide is the Sunni-Shi'a divide). Now why don't you answer: what does 85%+ of muslims think/follow (with the large majority of the remainder being the Shi'a) ?
> This is not true, I guess you are confusing it with a khula divorce
We are not talking about khula divorce. Obviously, we are talking about a talaq divorce, which has exactly the properties I said:
1) initiated by the man, no defense possible on the woman's part. Anytime, anywhere, mostly immediate or VERY short term, women just gets thrown into the street
2) there are NO financial obligations per se (it is ADVISED to provide money if the man forces the woman to take care of the children, but this cannot be enforced)
3) oh and feel free to point out that islam "advises against" divorcing this way. That's like islam's advice about slaves.
> In Islam kids stay with the woman if they are below a certain age, and men take kids above a certain age.
True. At that age they are taken away and delivered to the man if he wants that to happen.
> I'm not sure what you mean, a woman does not need to seek permission to remarry from her ex-husband.
Obviously she does. She needs the divorce to happen. The man does not. Given the punishments I cited that was obvious.
Yeah, there is no need for exaggeration. There are plenty of accurate statements about Sharia that trigger an emotional reaction among people of Western sensibilities.
For example there are countries (Egypt and Jordan) in the Middle-East where over 80% of the population supports murdering anyone raised Muslim who decides as an adult that the Koran is wrong. See http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi... for a source on that.
This refers to Indian law allowing muslims to live under sharia for family matters.
The rule itself is referred to as "triple talaq" and is part of sharia. In Sunni islam, basically men can abandon women, without any (any) limit immediately and without consequences (they get to take possession of everything the woman owns as well). They can take the kids if they want, including kids that have been conceived but not born yet (technically they should take the kids, but that's not what happens in practice).
Women face progressively harsher physical punishments for abandoning a man. If they remarry without his permission, they face (extra cruel) execution (stoning, often with the kids and family forced to watch).
Edit: links
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/05/tripple-ta...
The problem with wikipedia articles is that they try to bury the message in detail. Read it through 5 times and you'll slowly realize what the rule is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_in_Islam#Talaq_al-bid....
TLDR: in mainstream Sunni islam what I said is true. Allowing women contractual divorce is a Shi'a practice, and not practiced by >85% of muslims worldwide (what is it ?Essentially a prenup allowing for divorce under stated circumstances, which cannot be initiated directly by the woman). Once you look up the numbers, you'll see that the worst kind (the pure triple talaq) is followed by some ~80% of muslims worldwide, and the contractual thing is an exception for Shi'a only (and is one of the main stated reasons of recent Sunni genocides against Shi'a in the middle east). You'll see that the text does in fact say the overwhelming majority follows the worst practice, but not on your first read.
These statements in wikipedia are true, but they're true like saying "your phone company cannot just terminate your service", which is true. And then give the entire contract and details on how this contract is affected by 5 different jurisdictions, which is of course the entire rule. But all it serves is to cloud the issue.
Of course, in all realistic circumstances, your phone company can in fact just tell you to fuck off without so much as giving a reason.