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I don't need this. What I need is a legal way to acquire Windows 10 Long Term Support Branch. Basically Windows 10 without all the crap. No metro, and no feature updates whatsoever, just security updates, and supported for 10 years. Sort of like a Windows version of RHEL, if you will.

Now that is something that I want.

To play a numbers game, I'd pay $500 for that if it came with HyperV and the possibility of creating VMs for development with no extra licensing cost. Maaybe $700.




Is this still working without activation after 90days? I'm still on 7 but I'll have to leave it behind somewhere towards the end of the year.



Well $539/yr is not quite the same as $500 for life. Plus, MSDN software should only be used for development, using it e.g. as a workstation would technically be a violation, albeit one that is unenforceable. And yes, I am aware that if you install it in the first year, it will continue to work long after your MSDN license has expired.

My interest is not in "getting it", or "keeping it working", but rather doing everything 100% legally, not through loopholes. Otherwise I might just as well get a Windows 10 LTSB MSDN license key for $25 from people who illegally sell MSDN keys on reddit.

However, I am pleasantly surprised that there is a MSDN tier that only costs $539/yr instead of the $10000/yr (!) it used to cost. Also, apparently now MSDN is available for anyone, previously you had to enter into some kind of business contract with Microsoft, it wasn't available to individuals.


Nah you don't need to renew it. You pay $1200 upfront and it comes with a bunch of license keys, each allowing multiple activations, that you get to keep even if you do not renew the subscription. Renewal is only if you want a key for future versions of windows (Windows 11?), which there won't be according to Microsoft. The catch is that the license prevents you from using it as a main/production machine, it's for dev, testing and demo only.


Yes, see my rather extensive edit.

It's only $539, though. The cheaper MSDN tier seems to include LTSB according to the product matrix.


Which tier are you refering to? I thought VS Pro was the cheapest option.


Ah, it's cloud subscription vs standard subscription.

This is the proper link: https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/pricing/

So it's $539/yr for cloud vs. $1,199/1st yr + $799/2nd yr for standard.

Also on the same page we can see the differences:

> After the subscription expires, can use the software that was available during the active subscription term (“perpetual” use rights)

For standard it's YES, for cloud it's NO. It seems to be enforced, because lower on the page:

> Must connect to the Internet to check license status at least once every 30 days

For standard we have NO, and for cloud we have YES.

So unfortunately, you are right. It's $1,199 (more or less), not $539.


In your link the "Software for dev/test" is blank for cloud subscriptions. It comes with TFS licenses but I do not believe it comes with Windows licenses, even for the period of the subscription.


Signed, same for me. I sure as hell won't upgrade my Win7 machine until I can have a Win10 that doesn't load me up with ads (I paid for the OS, no need to annoy me), phones home or installs applications I did not explicitly request and consent!


>doesn't load me up with ads

Unclick some textboxes, better yet use one of the myriad scripts to do it for you

>phones home

Like Windows 7 since they backported all the telemetry to it?

>or installs applications I did not explicitly request and consent

Like Windows 7 bloatware? Uninstall it


> Unclick some textboxes, better yet use one of the myriad scripts to do it for you

Will be reset after the next Windows Update

> Like Windows 7 since they backported all the telemetry to it?

Better hope that's a joke?!

> Like Windows 7 bloatware? Uninstall it

Windows 7, to my knowledge, does not come with Candy Crush, and also does not install games with Windows Update.


The settings are not reset.

It's not a joke: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/01/microsoft_backports...

Uninstall apps you don't want or use a script to do it for you: https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10


If there was no current UI, you wouldn't have the Settings app. Sure you want Control Panel back?


LTSB actually comes with the settings app, though I don't want to use the settings app anyway. For the record, I am using LTSB, I just wish there was an easier way of getting it.


I thought you said 'no metro'? Doesn't that mean Windows 7 UI?


It comes with all the libraries just as regular Windows versions do, e.g. metro libraries are included. If you are so inclined you could even provision Windows Store on it (caveats apply).

But doesn't come with metro programs, with the exception of the settings app. E.g. the photo viewer is the one from Windows 7, not the Metro one. No Windows Store (unless you go out of your way to install it, etc).




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