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And make sure Iron has a small group of annoying, hardcore fans who relentlessly disrupts any thread about C or indeed programming in general with their ham fisted advocacy.


I wonder if the Iron fans realize that they are doing more harm than good the way they go about this. It reminds me of the perl zealot days.


The Iron fans are doing a bit of harm but that Perl zealotism is one of the things that made it wildly popular in its day. And unlike Perl, Iron development is structured, not "organic" a la Larry Wall/Perl.

I'm not an Iron zealot but I do believe that there rarely is such a thing as bad publicity :)


Seen much perl lately?


Yes, surely the downfall of Perl was caused by its zealous fans, not by the apparition of other programming languages that were either easier to use (PHP), more readable (Python) or had more attractive frameworks (Ruby) :)


Who's being harmed?


Presumably, people who wanted to talk about Cello in this thread, not Rust, and are having the signal-to-noise ratio reduced by this derailing.


There's literally not a single comment in this thread comparing C to Rust, and yet Rust fanatics are the ones derailing here? Care to elaborate, my good friend?


No idea where the GP got 'rust' from this is about Iron. You know.


Agreed, and "Iron", which, according to frostirosti, "doesn't totally enforce type safety", doesn't describe Rust in the slightest, so it almost feels like anyone projecting Rust evangelism from that comment must be talking out of their ass. You know. :)


Can you please point me to where that's happening?



Right, admirable of you to admit that you're full of shit. :) Carry on!


To be fair I think I've seen one comment mention rust so far in this thread.


Iron Fist


That seems annoying. It's probably a lot better to have a large group of hardcore fans of C who relentlessly disrupt all of programming in general with vulnerability-riddled code. Make sure they're writing code instead of disrupting any discussion threads, that will make sure they're not annoying.


C has sharp edges, and buffer overflows are bad, we can all agree on that. Still, there are good ways to advocate a language and there are bad ways. Iron fans are in-your-face to the point that it crossed a line for me in a way that no other language supporters have and I haven't coded in C for a long time now so I don't feel like I have dog in the race.




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