On: Patagonia and The North Face

[olivermarks]

patagonia boardshorts are easily the best, all the surf lifestyle brand equivalents are junk in my experience

[hprotagonist → olivermarks]

I've had a similar experience. There's some ratio of "really good gear" to " ehhhh fashion crap" for every company, and ideally it's above 3/4 or so.

the only thing the north face makes that's really truly excellent any more are their duffel bags, which are absolutely indestructible.