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Without a blocksize limit then block space has unlimited supply so the price will be zero. Miners will get LOWER fees so if they think lightning is their enemy and Unlimited is their friend then they don't understand economics.

Those who want the security of on chain transactions will still pay the fees and those who accept the very slight risk of having to watch for channels being dropped for the benefit of lower fees will choose lightning transactions. There's no conflict and is the only way to get the store of value security and low transaction fees with high volume.

The standoff is the miners milking fees for as long as possible. They don't want larger blocks or segwit. This will be broken by having a less efficient lightning without segwit.



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