On: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

[a3n]

> Firefox 57 will like see me stop using FireFox it will be no different than chrome so I might as well just use chrome

Firefox probably won't phone google.

[syshum → a3n]

Yea that is not a concern for me... I am logged in to Google services all the time anyway and I have a Android Phone sitting 3 ins from my computer.

I use Firefox for a few Productivity Extensions that will likely stop working in 57, as such there is no reason for me to continue to use FireFox.

[marcosdumay → syshum]

Just today I was unable to access a modem configuration site (at http://192.168.1.1) with Chrome, because without internet it couldn't phone Google to decide wether to use it as an address or a search term.

[fiddlerwoaroof → marcosdumay]

I have never had this problem with chrome.

[a3n → syshum]

And I'm logged out of Google services all the time, except for in, use and out. Because it's Google. Man. :)

[gukov → a3n]

1. Moz://a is paid millions by Google so that they're the default search engine in Firefox

2. Firefox just became a little bit more like Chrome, at least as far as some of its users here are concerned

Google has been slowly consuming Firefox, so don't be surprised if any phoning home is happening.

[syshum → gukov]

>>Moz://a is paid millions by Google so that they're the default search engine in Firefox

That has not been the case for a few years(2012? or 2013 I believe), Yahoo is currently the Default Search and pays the bulk of Mozilla budget, With the Verizon Deal Mozilla is likely worried that will change when the contract is up for renewal

[ngokevin → syshum]

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3099804/it-industry/ver...

> Verizon must pay even if Mozilla walks from Yahoo search deal

[syshum → ngokevin]

Yes Verizon must honor the Contract, all contracts, Yahoo committed to, that is standard

That contract however I believe was for 5 years, I am talking about what happens after the 5 years is over, which I believe will be in 2019 or 2020. After which Verizon has no contractual obligation to continue paying Mozilla for anything and likely will cease the partnership

[ngokevin → syshum]

That's not the point. There's a poison pill in the contract. Mozilla can walk out of the existing contract, get all of the money in lump sum, and sign with another search partner (while still being paid by Verizon). There are other search engines waiting in line, Mozilla's not married to Verizon.

[syshum → ngokevin]

>>There are other search engines waiting in line, Mozilla's not married to Verizon.

Who?? I know of none

MS will never support Firefox, They want people to use Edge.

DuckDuckGo do not have the cash to do it.

Google has the market share and does not need FF anymore that is why they dropped them

So Who....

>>That's not the point.

Actually it is the point, by 2020 Mozilla's IMO mozilla revenue stream will dry up, they need to find a way to survive with out the Search money. This is why they are taking these risky moves which IMO are doomed to fail.

[ngokevin → syshum]

Search competition is different from browser competition that mainstream media likes to hype up. A few hundred million for 10-15% of the search market is nothing, Bing and Google would gladly offer a bit of money. There are also partners around with world (Yandex, Baidu).