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I agree that we should err on the side of civility. But in this case, I think it's important to call out u/strainer for his mistake. Note that I said "mistake" and not "lie", because I do think it was an honest mistake, but a major one that was made in a rush to judgment.

No big deal. Me and u/strainer are just two people opining about things we read on the Internet on a late Monday night. But that's kind of the bigger picture, isn't it? If the allegations against Mr. Gottesfeld are materially true, but we assign the best of motives to him, then he himself is also just another guy who read something on the Internet. Except, instead of just opining about it, he allegedly tried to shut down an entire hospital's IT.

u/strainer wants to believe in the narrative that Mr. Gottesfeld is competent and knowledgeable enough to know how a hospital's IT is configured. I'm of the belief that maybe Mr. Gottesfeld is overconfident of what he knows about hospital IT. And perhaps he was overconfident of the issues regarding the plight of the girl and her family. Because it's easy to miss even the big details when reading things on the Internet.



Dude if anyone here "wants to believe in a narrative" it's got to be you. Gottesfeld's "narrative" is simple. He wanted to interrupt fundraising, so he interrupted fundraising. It's BCH and DoJ that have the complicated yarn to spin, about how torturing little girls is OK and all of their life support equipment relies on constant access to Instagram and the best response to your connection coming under DDoS is to just unhook the damn thing.

You aren't actually being civil, when you pretend that anyone whose argument you have misunderstood is some sort of moron.


I don't believe I ever used the word "moron" to describe someone who purportedly believes that the FBI, Boston Children's Hospital, and the state of Massachusetts conspired to torture a girl in public view. I'm still struggling with how Mr. Gottesfeld both denies that he was behind the attack while describing in extensive detail to the Huffington Post how he did in fact launch the alleged attack.

I guess I'll have to count myself among the simpletons who fail to comprehend Mr. Gottesfeld's simple narrative. I honestly don't feel too bad about that, though. Apparently the two people who care most about Justina, i.e. her parents, don't seem to understand his narrative, either.




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