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Immigration is self-limiting in that way. The more people immigrate for the fixed-sum entitlement, the greater the cost inflation, and the less that entitlement is worth.

Anyhow, when Massachusetts enacted universal health coverage, they didn't see any measurable increase in immigration, foreign or domestic. I'm not aware of any situation anywhere in the world where such entitlements caused significant immigration.

People emigrating from Mexico, Turkey, Syria, etc, are fleeing violence and systemic corruption. Conservatives like to point out that the most basic role of government is to provide security--that is, a physically safe environment with a strong rule of law that minimizes the costs of economic transactions. And, indeed, those things are what people value most and are the principal drivers of immigration.

But I, too, am skeptical of UBI. There are too many cultural factors that will gum up the works. For example, the perception that entitlements attract immigration and promote freeloading is one of the reasons a UBI will likely result in increased resentment, even in the face of substantially improved overall objective benchmarks of well-being. And that will likely be the case in both the U.S. and Europe.

Another Medium.com article mentioned that a UBI would make it easier for laborers to strike. But they fail to realize that a UBI will also reduce demand for labor organizing. Below a certain threshold institutional labor advocacy will disintegrate. That means less political support for maintaining a UBI. (Which is part of the reason why it wasn't at all hypocritical for the unions promoting a $15/hr minimum wage in Los Angeles to seek to exclude unionized workers. It's a fair presumption that a union--as compared to an individual--that bargained for less than the minimum wage exacted other compensation. And as long as the minimum wage isn't bound to inflation, you'll need to maintain unions to ensure future political support. Voters have short memories and are poor advocates for themselves; unions are far more strategic, and closer to the kind of rational economic player economics models.)

Increased resentment + weaker political support means even greater difficulty sustaining UBI, let alone enacting it.




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