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The Magician of Manga (nybooks.com)
62 points by lermontov on Nov 29, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments



What's always fascinated me about manga is the progression of space, rather than time.


Can you explain that further?


Allow me to gather my thoughts for a moment.

In the West, we are obsessed with the arrow of time. Storytelling in the West is typically concerned with getting characters from point A to point B. The space of the story is of secondary importance to the one way flow of time. The here and now is of central importance.

This is not the case in Eastern cultures. Japanese culture has been heavily influenced by Vedic religions, as well Shintoism and Taoism.

A central concept of Vedic religions is Samsara[1], which can be thought of as a cyclical view of the universe. Time itself is merely an illusion, because ultimately the same cycle of birth, sustainence, and death is repeated infinitely.

That's why space is the focal point in manga. As another commenter stated, certain events are happening in the present. But the next scene may have non-linearly taken place in the future, or perhaps in the past, or even with no reference to the current time period. What ties everything together is the common space.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saṃsāra


afaik there was never any influence of hinduism on Japan at all - barely a contact with it before late 19.century and modern ways of migration.

And it would be the height of irony to call buddhism a vedic religion, as it along with other sramana movements (such as jainism or ajivika) of the time precisely rejected the vedas.


> buddhism...precisely rejected the vedas

It's a lot more complicated than that...


heh most things are, but I cannot see what complication you may have in mind relevant here.

Vedas don't have any authority in buddhism, just like in other shramana religions, and seem their claim to traditional authority is directly criticized in actual buddhist scripture - literally that this tradition is blind men leading the blind (itself possibly an Upanishadic reference). No doubt there's a decent amount of complication in the matter of various lines of theological influences going between the religions as one would expect, but how is that any justification for calling buddhism a vedic religion? Hindu authors have commonly identified precisely Buddhism, Jainism, Ajivika and the Charvakas, in other words the shramana traditions as being nastika on exactly the basis of their rejection of vedic authority. Now if you'd call it Dharmic religions, sure that works - though is a bit of a strange euphemism in case of Japan where clearly one can only be talking about Buddhism, so why define it in any plurality like "dharmic religions"?

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.095x.than.html

" Suppose there were a row of blind men, each holding on to the one in front of him: the first one doesn't see, the middle one doesn't see, the last one doesn't see. In the same way, the statement of the brahmans turns out to be a row of blind men, as it were: the first one doesn't see, the middle one doesn't see, the last one doesn't see. So what do you think, Bharadvaja: this being the case, doesn't the conviction of the brahmans turn out to be groundless?"


I don't get it. Can you please list 3 examples I can look up?


This may be related to Scott McCloud's analysis of comic frame transitions in Understanding Comics [0]. I don't have my copy in front of me, but from memory he observed that Japanese manga has a much larger amount of aspect-to-aspect transitions, whereas traditional American super hero comics are more heavily saturated in action-to-action and subject-to-subject.

0: http://www.d.umn.edu/~cstroupe/ideas/assets/mccloud_transiti...


I think that makes sense to me. I thought it had something to do with the amount of flashbacks or concurrent story lines or something.


yarou might mean things like, for example, characters having long conversations or extended introspective flashbacks during events drawn as only taking a few seconds to happen.




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